Move "Field list" and "Views plugin" pages from Reports to Structure

Created on 19 July 2017, over 7 years ago
Updated 20 August 2024, 4 months ago

Problem/Motivation

The Field list and Used in views pages list all fields with a link to the entity or views that uses them. The Views plugins page links to all the views that use them.

Both are useful resources for users working with fieldable entities or views. With the exception of user accounts, these are all located under Structure in the admin menu, but the list pages are are located under Reports.
Other report pages are more about the kind of changing information that is required on a production site (status, log, errors etc.), while these list pages are a tool during site-building.

Users might not expect these site-building resource under reports, and therefore miss out.

Proposed resolution

Based on reviews by the usability, in #19 ๐Ÿ“Œ Move "Field list" and "Views plugin" pages from Reports to Structure Postponed and #45 ๐Ÿ“Œ Move "Field list" and "Views plugin" pages from Reports to Structure Postponed this issue is a won't fix. Improvement to the structure should be made in the following issue

Remaining tasks

User interface changes

Before

And scrolling way down...

After

API changes

Data model changes

๐Ÿ“Œ Task
Status

Closed: won't fix

Version

11.0 ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Component
Fieldย  โ†’

Last updated about 7 hours ago

Created by

๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑNetherlands ifrik

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  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณIndia nikhil_110

    Attached patch against drupal 10.1.x

  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณIndia Akram Khan Cuttack, Odisha

    try to fix CCF #37

  • Assigned to sourabhjain
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณIndia sourabhjain

    I am working on fixing #38.

  • Issue was unassigned.
  • Status changed to Needs review almost 2 years ago
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณIndia sourabhjain

    Tried to fix the #38 error. Please review.

  • Status changed to Postponed almost 2 years ago
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บAustralia larowlan ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ.au GMT+10

    Folks, please don't work on this until we get buy in from the UX/product team

    In #19 they expressed that they didn't support it.

    I would recommend taking it to the usability team via the #ux channel

  • ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บAustralia larowlan ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ.au GMT+10

    FWIW I don't agree with this change either

  • ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟNew Zealand quietone

    Based on #19 this looks like it should be won't fix.

  • ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ชGermany rkoller Nรผrnberg, Germany

    Usability review

    We discussed this issue at ๐Ÿ“Œ Drupal Usability Meeting 2024-08-16 Needs work . That issue will have a link to a recording of the meeting. For the record, the attendees at today's usability meeting were @benjifisher, @rkoller, and @simohell.

    On one hand, we see the point of moving the Field list and Views plugin pages from Reports into Structure. We've considered the two personas relevant in this case, site builders and site administrators. For someone monitoring a site, looking at log messages, 404 errors, keeping a constant eye on the site's status report, the Field list and Views plugin page are not that much of interest nor help. Site builders on the other hand who are building views, creating content types, and other entity types, for them those two pages are way more important and helpful.

    But on the other hand, the top level menu items in the Drupal Admin UI don't group tasks for the needs of different personas, instead they are grouped thematically. So under Structure one is able to actively alter the information architecture of the site, while the sole main purpose of the pages under Reports is informational. That clear separation of concern would get diluted by moving the two pages. The other aspect to note, the sub menu items under Structure are sorted alphabetically. That way, the menu item Views plugins would be right after the menu item Views. The page providing the information about views would be in close proximity. That is not the case for the Field list menu item. During the meeting we've only considered Content types as the sole place containing fields, and noted that the menu item Field list is not right next to the menu item Content types, Display mode is in-between. And that is only for the case of English, for other languages these gaps might be even more significant. It has to be added, I've noticed and remembered while writing up the comment, that the Field list page not only provides information about fields for Content types, but also for Content blocks, Comments, Media, Views, and Users. The latter could not even be found under the top-level menu item Structure but Configuration.

    So yes, we think it is a good idea to give site builders another way to access those two pages, but the proposed resolution is probably not the right way to solve this problem. @yoroy already suggested three alternative approaches how to improve the situation in #19 ๐Ÿ“Œ Move "Field list" and "Views plugin" pages from Reports to Structure Postponed with ๐Ÿ“Œ Allow user to add display modes from respective field UI's. Needs work , ๐Ÿ› New users have difficulty finding where to adjust the content model Needs work , and ๐Ÿ“Œ Emphasize the most important items on the 'structure' page Needs work . We thought we might even need a sort of more comprehensive solution for interlinking admin pages. We protentially need a standard structure, some sort of API, for specifying where to put those links. ๐ŸŒฑ Providing additional methods of navigating the admin interface Active might cover the technical foundation for that API, while the underlying navflow might be informed by the work in the context of the Drupalisms working group.

    To summarize things and to answer the question @quiteone raised on the #ux channel on the Drupal Slack. We agree with @yoroy and @quietone and would also suggest closing this issue in favor of one of the aforementioned other issues.

  • Status changed to Closed: won't fix 4 months ago
  • ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟNew Zealand quietone

    @rkoller and the usability team, Thank you!

    I have updated the issue summary and status based on #45. This is now won't fix and work can continue in the issues listed in the proposed resolution.

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