- Assigned to sourabhjain
- Issue was unassigned.
- Status changed to Needs review
almost 2 years ago 10:36am 2 March 2023 - Status changed to Postponed
almost 2 years ago 10:10pm 2 March 2023 - ๐ฆ๐บAustralia larowlan ๐ฆ๐บ๐.au GMT+10
FWIW I don't agree with this change either
- ๐ณ๐ฟNew Zealand quietone
Based on #19 this looks like it should be won't fix.
- ๐ฉ๐ชGermany rkoller Nรผrnberg, Germany
Usability review
We discussed this issue at ๐ Drupal Usability Meeting 2024-08-16 Needs work . That issue will have a link to a recording of the meeting. For the record, the attendees at today's usability meeting were @benjifisher, @rkoller, and @simohell.
On one hand, we see the point of moving the
Field list
andViews plugin
pages fromReports
intoStructure
. We've considered the two personas relevant in this case, site builders and site administrators. For someone monitoring a site, looking at log messages, 404 errors, keeping a constant eye on the site's status report, theField list
andViews plugin
page are not that much of interest nor help. Site builders on the other hand who are building views, creating content types, and other entity types, for them those two pages are way more important and helpful.But on the other hand, the top level menu items in the Drupal Admin UI don't group tasks for the needs of different personas, instead they are grouped thematically. So under
Structure
one is able to actively alter the information architecture of the site, while the sole main purpose of the pages underReports
is informational. That clear separation of concern would get diluted by moving the two pages. The other aspect to note, the sub menu items underStructure
are sorted alphabetically. That way, the menu itemViews plugins
would be right after the menu item Views. The page providing the information about views would be in close proximity. That is not the case for theField list
menu item. During the meeting we've only consideredContent types
as the sole place containing fields, and noted that the menu itemField list
is not right next to the menu itemContent types
,Display mode
is in-between. And that is only for the case of English, for other languages these gaps might be even more significant. It has to be added, I've noticed and remembered while writing up the comment, that theField list
page not only provides information about fields forContent types
, but also forContent blocks
,Comments
,Media
,Views
, andUsers
. The latter could not even be found under the top-level menu itemStructure
butConfiguration
.So yes, we think it is a good idea to give site builders another way to access those two pages, but the proposed resolution is probably not the right way to solve this problem. @yoroy already suggested three alternative approaches how to improve the situation in #19 ๐ Move "Field list" and "Views plugin" pages from Reports to Structure Postponed with ๐ Allow user to add display modes from respective field UI's. Needs work , ๐ New users have difficulty finding where to adjust the content model Needs work , and ๐ Emphasize the most important items on the 'structure' page Needs work . We thought we might even need a sort of more comprehensive solution for interlinking admin pages. We protentially need a standard structure, some sort of API, for specifying where to put those links. ๐ฑ Providing additional methods of navigating the admin interface Active might cover the technical foundation for that API, while the underlying navflow might be informed by the work in the context of the Drupalisms working group.
To summarize things and to answer the question @quiteone raised on the #ux channel on the Drupal Slack. We agree with @yoroy and @quietone and would also suggest closing this issue in favor of one of the aforementioned other issues.
- Status changed to Closed: won't fix
4 months ago 4:08am 20 August 2024 - ๐ณ๐ฟNew Zealand quietone
@rkoller and the usability team, Thank you!
I have updated the issue summary and status based on #45. This is now won't fix and work can continue in the issues listed in the proposed resolution.