Project Browser: Create a logo for Feeds

Move to project's queue per @leslieg.

The current image does not meet the requirements.

@megachriz, we should create logo that better represents what module is doing - import any data. Maybe something "opposite" to https://www.drupal.org/project/views_data_export → logo with data going out.
maybe something link this

Seem fine to me. It needs to be reduced in file size and dimensions if this is to be used (see summary for requirements).

I remember that James Dixon sketched an idea for this a few years ago. See https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C34CECZAL/p1527090735000300

I would like to continue using the Feeds monster if possible, but your idea isn't that bad either, @irinaz. Perhaps the two could be combined somehow? I did have plans to get back to my lost drawing hobby, perhaps this is a good opportunity for it!

I am partial to the monster too… so cute 🥰

@megaChriz, I love this idea of combining monster with formats :) and I like this logo https://www.drupal.org/files/project-images/backup-migrate-icon_2.png → . And we miss James.

I have made some sketches this week, first trying to create a drawing of the current Feeds monster from the front. And I also drew a few other monsters. And an idea for the Feeds Tamper logo as well. I see I have some trouble getting the feet correct.

And this is an idea about how the current Feeds monster could be combined with file consumption:

Cute!

Hi @MegaChriz,
The logo is super cute and effectively represents the functionality of the module. Just need to compress the size to meet the requirements!
Hence moving it to NW.

@sourojeetpaul
Thanks. 🙂

Meanwhile on the #feeds on Drupal Slack there also have been some discussion about this:

@irinaz said:

For feeds module https://www.drupal.org/files/issues/2024-08-08/feeds-with-files.png → I would like monster to be a little smaller and cards to be a little bigger so it is easier for new users to see what the module does

One of the challenges with feeds module that many users confuse it with RSS feeds generator 😞

@megachriz said:

Or maybe having the Feeds monster just eat one or two file types?

I’m first trying to draw the existing Feeds monster from the front. By doing that, I hope I could draw him in different poses and then see if a different type of pose would work better.

Or should we try to continue to use the current pose?

For example, a pose like this could be tried:

Imagine the cookie being eaten to be a CSV file and the cookie still in the hand to be a RSS file.

Maybe there are more existing Cookie monster poses that would be interesting to use.

Ok @MegaChriz,
Thanks for giving a highlight of the conversation going over the channel, unfortunately I was not there. I'll join in and try to participate in the conversation there as well!
The one that you provided earlier was also giving me a sense of the monster gulping all different sort of files which creates a visual implication of the "import" functionality.
But the proposed cookie monster kind of solution also seems to be a legit alternative.
Along with

Imagine the cookie being eaten to be a CSV file and the cookie still in the hand to be a RSS file.

We can also have a basket of other sort of cookies demarcating other different sort of files that this module targets, giving an comprehensive overview of all sort of the file extensions that the module is capable of handling.
But I see a small problem with the "Cookie Monster" implementation. I'm not sure whether it'll be a good idea to represent different files as cookies, the same aligns with cookies as it directly implies to that and "the cookie on the hand" and like that of I mentioned just now, a basket full of cookies will more accurately represent different sorts of cookies, rather than cookies as in file types.

Am a bit confused on that part.
Maybe @irinaz could help us here, by sharing her preference :)

@sourojeetpaul

I'm not sure whether it'll be a good idea to represent different files as cookies (...)

A very quick drawing about what I meant about the Cookie Monster pose, and having files instead of cookies:

@MegaChriz,
Ohh ok sorry! Ya that looks good. Can we add that basket in front of the monster, that I've talked about in my previous comment?

We can have even jars with cookies representing many files of many types, and all of them can imported, jar representing type of cookie, cookie representing individual file :)

Hi @megachriz,
Sorry for the delay. This is what I'm able to come up with, also as per our latest discussion on the Feeds Tamper logo, I believe now both of the logo seems coherent with a slight different variation for easy demarcation of it to be related yet acting as a distinguishable factor.
Pls have a look!

@sourojeetpaul, do you want me to update this image to include .csv, json and xml symbols there to make it easier for users to recognize what module does?

I was planning to say something alike, but I wanted to demonstrate it with a drawing first. Note that XML and JSON is done by Feeds Extensible Parsers, so I think these file types should not be on the Feeds logo because of that.

Hi @irinaz,
As per the discussion with @megachriz on the thread of Feeds Tamper module #10 📌 Project Browser: Create a logo for Feeds Tamper Needs review , the file type demarcations are removed to achieve more abstraction and remove any sort of confusion so as to avoid setting erroneous expectations to the user.
But now again I got a bit confused by the above two comment of you guys, so can any of you pls help me out in solidifying the idea.
@megachriz It'll be great if you can provide me with any kind of wireframe emphasising on the file types.

@sourojeetpaul
Sorry for the confusion. For Feeds Tamper it made sense to remove the references to file types, because Feeds Tamper doesn't deal with file types. Its purpose is to receive a piece of data from Feeds (most of the times text, but it can be numbers or arrays as well), transform it and then give it back to Feeds.
Feeds on the other hand is getting fed a file (for example CSV or RSS), parses it and then processes it (most of the times creating content entities). So for Feeds it makes sense that it deals with files, and for Feeds Tamper it doesn't.

I'm scanning my drawings now...

Thanks for the clarity. I'm waiting for the drawing now :)

For a basket with files, I had imagined the following:

For the monster eating files, we could use something like this (earlier posted image):

I have a vector based file of the file types attached as SVG. That image looks like this:

Maybe the from the first four file types, there could be three in the basket. And two in the monster's hands (preferable CSV and RSS). So that would mean one file type would be displayed twice, which I think is fine.
I think that the latter two (XML and JSON) should not be used for the Feeds logo, but for the logo of Feeds Extensible Parsers instead: 📌 Project Browser: Create a logo for Feeds Extensible Parsers Active .

Ok, Got the clarity now, I'm on it.
Also I'll try to address Feeds Extensible Parsers logo along side as a referenced issue :)

@megachriz, Pls have a look now!

@sourojeetpaul
Thanks for the quick update! Could it look like actual file documents instead of balls? On a smaller logo size, the balls are not recognizable as files:

You could perhaps use the vector images that I posted in the zip: https://www.drupal.org/files/issues/2024-08-22/file-types.svg_.zip →

I suppose you are creating the logo's in a vector based program, like Illustrator, Affinity Designer or Inkscape? It would be cool if you want to share the vector images as well, so they could be reused for other Feeds related modules. But also so they could be used easier in other contexts, like in a presentation or on a Feeds instruction video on Youtube.

Thanks for the quick review @megachriz,
I think initially we've decided to showcase the file types in form of cookies like these. Anyways I'm providing another version of this file file doc type graphics by replacing the cookies.
Ya sure I'll be attaching the vector illustrations with that as well!

Oh sorry that I didn't communicate the thing about the cookies well. Maybe I should have been more clear when I posted the Cookie monster image. I meant Cookie monster as an inspiration for the Feeds monster. Instead of cookies, the Feeds monster would hold documents. So replace "cookie" with "document".

Ya ya understood. Already on it!

Have look now, Attached the illustrator file as well this time :)

Thanks! Looks better.

I wondered if the image could be displayed bigger, so I tried that with the attached Illustrator file, but I see that way that the image size becomes 22 kb.

I also wondered what the image size would be if it was just the head with documents, but that doesn't make the image much smaller. 😞

I do think it looks nice if the strokes are a bit bigger.
And I think that ideally the RSS should remain orange, although that adds another color to the image.

Hi @megachriz,
It looks nice, but will be missing in this case :(
Also on incorporating bolder strokes and addition of another colour will increase the file size quite evidently as it'll increase the colour gamets. So I'm afraid that we've to let go of one of them, either we've to break the strict file size rule, or have to make peace with lesser colours, but obviously that won't look as vibrant as its looking in your version :)

Yes, and even in black & white the image is still too large in file size.

I love this image - let's send it to Kristan for review.

This image represents feeds idea event without the bowl and keep image clean and crisp

@irinaz
Okay, but I see that does need some small tidying up. It looks like that the CSV document doesn't have the same proportions and size as the RSS document. I may have slipped the mouse a bit while resizing. And I see that the way I made the strokes bigger could be done a bit neater. But that are details. :)

This is how the logo's look like in Project Browser:

@sourojeetpaul
I do like the bowl too, perhaps we could keep it for Feeds Tamper, so that you didn't make it for nothing.

This is how the head + bowl would look like.

Project browser:

I previously overlooked that pngquant has a --quality option. If I set the value really low I can get bigger looking images under 10 kb. The downside is that you do see rough edges when viewed at a size of 512 x 512:

This is the higher quality one:

Command used to generate the image:

pngquant Feeds-edited3.png --force --quality 10

As I have Affinity Designer, not Illustrator, I've enabled all layers in a single SVG file so I can share the edited file. You need to disable layers to continue on a specific one. The variants are not tidied up yet - the edits were done rather quickly so they would need to be refined to look good.

But as I want to get Drupal 11 releases out soon of Feeds and related projects, I plan to leave this issue for a while until the D11 releases are done.

By the way, @kristen pol said on Slack that the 10kb isn't a "hard requirement". So that makes it easier to get a nice logo without too many drawbacks.