- Issue created by @colan
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
First the good news, the feed validates:
Congratulations!
[Valid RSS] This is a valid RSS feed.
https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcolan.pro%2Fta...
But the last Drupal post is from 2020 ... Maybe you can create a Drupal article or two, and change status to review, when published?
I am looking forward to seeing your posts, especially about Aegir on Planet Drupal.
- 🇨🇦Canada colan Toronto 🇨🇦
This would be a really good one for the community to know about:
https://colan.pro/blog/drubernetes-terraform-module-for-kubernetes-clust...
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Thanks, very interesting article! Your blog should be on Planet Drupal.
I really like that there's an image included, sometimes Planet Drupal can be a bit text heavy (see related issue) ...
It does look like the entire article is included, perhaps you can trim it? This is only a recommendation → , so not a blocker:
It is recommended that you trim or use a summary for your feed content between 600 and 1000 characters. [...]
Article ideas
I have recently been looking into simple Docker-based monitoring solutions for Drupal. I use Uptime Kuma to check if the web sites are up (it's really great), and in the process of looking at monitoring resources with Grafana and Prometheus, or maybe Zabbix. One or more articles about setting up basic, Docker-based monitoring tools for checking uptime, and resource usage would be really awesome to see on Planet Drupal, so maybe you could consider that? Thanks!
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
That sounds great @colan! And those subjects would be just fine in my opinion, since they are tools for running Drupal sites (and others as well), and the subjects are then very much Drupal-related after all, and can help other Drupal users have a better experience.
I would totally read an article called "Monitoring Drupal sites with Alertmanager and Cronitor" by you :)
And speaking of monitoring, I just created a new documentation page https://www.drupal.org/docs/managing-site-performance-and-scalability/si... → for self-hosted free and Open Source server monitoring tools. Feel free to add more, or expand the text.
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
There must be two articles created in the past three months and three weeks. Older articles are discarded from the Aggregator module used for Planet Drupal.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
I think you are far too strict, like we already discussed, and it is pointlessly keeping great articles from getting on Planet Drupal, in my opinion.
It feels to me like you are following rules, just to follow rules, and gate keeping any suggested changes (see issue).
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
No, I am not following rules just to follow rules.
It is not different from when a feed is added for the first time: The feed is required to have at least two articles published in the past three months and three weeks. It would not make sense to accept a feed with articles nobody would see because the Aggregator module discards them.
And no, I am not gatekeeping significant changes to the current Drupal Planet guidelines: They have been written as they are by the Content Working Group.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Thanks for a fast answer.
But was that rule addition 7 August 2024 discussed in the Content Working Group?
avpaderno - commented 7 August 2024 at 13:31
Added a note about when the accepted articles must be created. It would not make sense to accept a feed where the only articles have been created more than three months and three weeks ago, as those articles will be automatically discarded from the Aggregator module, the module that handles the Planet Drupal articles.From https://www.drupal.org/node/453640/revisions/view/13598004/13665350 →
Change, from:
- Your feed must have at least two posts already so we can evaluate the content and make sure it is appropriate for the Planet.
To:
- Your feed must have at least two posts already, created (preferably) the past 30 days or in the past three months and three weeks. This allows to evaluate the content, make sure it is appropriate for Planet Drupal, and make sure the feed has sufficiently recent content. (The Aggregator module discards articles older than three months and three weeks.)
In my opinion it is pointless, and even harmful, since it now blocks Drupal experts such as @idiaz.roncero and @colan with deep Drupal knowledge, and experts in related fields, from getting on Planet Drupal, due to "bureaucratic red tape".
Their inclusion should have been a formality:
- Does the feed validate?
- Does it contain only Drupal content?
- Is there a recent article, or two for quality evaluation?
If yes, then add it.
Instead, the process got bogged down in a bureaucratic swamp ...
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
The guideline already said the feed must contain at least two articles. I did not change that to three articles; I did just make clearer what at least two articles means, since feeds with too old articles were already not accepted.
Their inclusion should have been a formality
No, it is not. Feeds that do not follow the guidelines are not added; feeds that add articles that do not follow the guidelines are suspended or removed.
It has been always so since those guidelines have been posted. - 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
CWG?
Thanks, but you didn't answer if this expansion of the rules was decided by the Content Working Group.
No time limit
I am not sure why you mention "[...] I did not change that to three articles".
The point is, that in the wording 11 June 2024, there is no time period, nor mentions of Aggregator, this is all it says:
2. Your feed must have at least two posts already so we can evaluate the content and make sure it is appropriate for the Planet.
3. Your feed must pass source code validation [...]https://www.drupal.org/node/453640/revisions/13598004/view →
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
It is not an expansion because a feed with articles older than three months and three weeks would have been rejected even before I made the guidelines clearer. It just happened that nobody would ask to add a feed with articles created three months and three weeks before asking to add the feed.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
That's still a rule, even if it only existed in your mind.
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
It is an existing role. The keyword here is existing.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
I am not sure what you mean. It wasn't a rule on the 11 June 2024.
As before, I feel like you're derailing the discussion. Anyway, let's not carry on with this back and forth here, any further debate is probably best done in 📌 Relax Planet Drupal feed item frequency requirements Active .
Wow, I just now see that you deleted my update and restored an old version. This does not look good at all.
Sorry @colan for derailing your issue.
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
I have been involved with Planet Drupal since 2010. I can assure you nobody would have added a feed with articles created more than three months and three weeks before. It is not a new rule.
Anyway, this is off topic for this issue, which is asking for re-adding a feed. Derailing this issue will not do any favor to it.
- 🇨🇦Canada colan Toronto 🇨🇦
Here's another article:
How about now?
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
I re-added the feed ( https://www.drupal.org/aggregator/sources/2094 → ). Two articles have been added to Planet Drupal.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Thanks @colan, this is exactly the kind of content I was hoping for. And great to see that running DDEV in Windows got easier. Windows users occasionally share in the Drupal Forum → how they failed to install DDEV, and end up using XAMPP or custom LAMP instead.