Relax Planet Drupal feed item frequency requirements

Created on 11 February 2025, about 2 months ago

Problem/Motivation

The Planet Drupal feed item frequency requirements → are a bit limiting, since not everyone posts very frequently.

It's also quite wordy, and I think the text can be tightened up, since the important parts may get glossed over.

Steps to reproduce

Review an application for Planet Drupal, see that the content is great but fails the feed item requirements .

Proposed resolution

  1. The Planet Drupal feed item frequency requirements could be relaxed a bit, and the wording simplified, to require just one recent, as well as a few past articles.
  2. The wording can be tightened up, cutting out unimportant info.

From:

2. Your feed must have at least two posts already, created (preferably) the past 30 days or in the past three months and three weeks. This allows to evaluate the content, make sure it is appropriate for Planet Drupal, make sure the feed has sufficiently recent content, and show the feed is kept updated with new articles. (The Aggregator module discards articles older than three months and three weeks.)

To:

2. Your feed must have three posts already, so we can evaluate the content, and at least one post created within the last three months.

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3.0

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🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

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  • Issue created by @ressa
  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    Feeds are required to have posts created in the past three months and three weeks because older articles are not even added to Planet Drupal and posts are automatically discarded after three months and three weeks.

    Without those requirements, somebody could ask to add a feed with articles that will never appear on Planet Drupal, or somebody could ask to add a no longer active feed without adding new articles. In neither those cases the feeds should be added.

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    Thanks for a fast reply, but my proposal does cover this aspect:

    ... at least one post created within the last three months.

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    Your feed must have three posts already and at least one post created within the last three months means a feed could be asked to be added to Planet Drupal in June and have an article created on March and two articles older than three months and three weeks, which would also mean that, after three weeks, no article would be visible on Planet Drupal.

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    Sure, but I don't see that as a problem. It's up to the blogger to keep producing articles, and get shown at the top of Planet Drupal. Also, in reality, it's the first page which is important, and the exposure of getting shown at the top. The number of users who proceed to page 2, 3, and 4 are probably not many, is my assumption ...

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    For what I recall, 10 articles from the same feed have never appeared on the first page.
    If it happens because a site publishes 12 different articles in a week, I do not see that as a problem because we should incentivate good articles on Planet Drupal, or Planet Drupal will "die."
    If it happens because an issue on how a feed is generated from a site, single articles can be removed, or the feed can be suspended until the issue is resolved. There is no need to put a limit that is then valid for every feed on Planet Drupal.

    A limit basing on how many articles from the same feed appears on the first page of https://www.drupal.org/planet → , https://www.drupal.org/planeta → , or https://www.drupal.org/planet/chinese → makes less sense.

    What should article's authors do before publishing an article? Check https://www.drupal.org/planet → and wait somebody else publish an article?
    What should be done when there are more than 10 articles from the same feed on the first page of Planet Drupal or any regional variant?

  • 🇪🇸Spain idiaz.roncero Madrid

    Just to weigh in, I think this discussion arises from my requirement to be featured on Drupal Planet, see https://www.drupal.org/project/content/issues/3505650 📌 Add idiazroncero.com to Planet Drupal Active

    The issue here is that my way of blogging about Drupal is to write 1/2 posts a year, but these posts are very thorough and detailed (usually coming from DrupalCon or Camp presentations). My latest post, for example, is a 15+ minutes deep dive on Drupal placeholders. I intend to keep it that way as it is my preferred way to contribute to the Drupal community, and I prefer long, detailed content over smaller formats (which of couse I also find useful and interesting).

    I am nevertheless not in compliance with Planet Drupal rules, as this is the only post on the last three months. I think we can agree that it is a pity that high-quality, low-frequency posters are left behind by the rules as they stand right now.

    As they are right now; Planet Drupal requirements seem to focus on just frequency.

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    Thanks for sharing @idiaz.roncero, I have thought about adding use cases to the Issue Summary, and your comment gave me the push to do it.

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    I am nevertheless not in compliance with Planet Drupal rules, as this is the only post on the last three months.

    Actually, there are two articles posted on October, 2024.

    The requirements are not all about frequency, but how much articles would be visible in the feed once added to Planet Drupal, and which of them are appropriate for Planet Drupal. Then, the requirements say that a feed no longer updated is removed.

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    Also, as a side note, the status of 📌 Add idiazroncero.com to Planet Drupal Active is not yet Fixed, but not because any requirement for the post frequency.

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    The requirements are not all about frequency, but how much articles would be visible in the feed once added to Planet Drupal [...]

    As an end user, I don't care too much about that. As an end user, it's the front page that really matters, so this shouldn't be the foundation for a evaluation, in my opinion.

    Have you seen the three use cases I have in the Issue summary? Perhpa we can use use those as foundation for evaluation criteria?

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    None of those cases are about relaxing feed item frequency requirements, which actually are not even present in the Planet Drupal requirements. In fact, none of the requirements says there must be a new article every X days/months.

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    It feels like you are derailing the aim of the issue.

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    No, it's this issue that is asking to remove something the Planet Drupal guidelines do not require.

    The Planet Drupal feed item frequency requirements are a bit limiting, since not everyone posts very frequently.

    May you point out where the requirements say there must be a new article every X months/days?

  • 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen

    Maybe I worded it wrongly and maybe frequency is not the correct word?

    Anyway, my point is to relax the current requirements, which requires more and recent content ("two posts" and "past 30 days") to allow older and less content to qualify for acceptance ("one post" and "last three months").

  • 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹

    Two articles are already a compromise between the reviewers need, who would at least need three articles to be able to understand which type of articles the feed is going to publish, and the people who post articles, who asked for less articles to be necessary for a feed to be added. Since that is the reached compromise, that would not be touched.

    The requirements do not say that those two articles must be created in the past 30 days, but that they should be (preferably) created in the past 30 days or in the past three months and three weeks.

    The reason to prefer articles created in the past 30 days are at least two:

    • There is plenty of time to review the feed before the articles are no longer visible on Planet Drupal because they are removed from the Aggregator module, or they are not even added from the Aggregator module
    • Articles created in the past 30 days (and not three months ago) show the intention to keep adding new articles
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