- Issue created by @ressa
- 🇺🇸United States drumm NY, US
Has this happened recently? The core bug that caused 🐛 Prevent flooding of feeds such as Drupal Planet with old blog posts Closed: duplicate was fixed long ago.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
It's true that it happens less frequently, I think I stopped adding all flooding instances I saw to the list on 📌 Clean up Drupal Planet for old posts Active half a year ago, but it happened again 15 January 2025, which I just added.
It looks like that issue 🐛 Views RSS Feed Fields adds tag. Active may not have fixed it completely, or maybe people are upgrading to a version prior to Drupal 10.2 released 15 Dec 2023? Because it has happened a handful of times since December 2023.
If the Planet Drupal page could be cleaned up by admins and old posts removed when a flooding happens, there would be no need to limit the number -- but since there are not resources for this, this would be a preventative step, should it happen in the future, and I don't see the harm in limiting the number of items in a feed to ten.
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
We should incentivate writing articles worth for Planet Drupal. Asking to post a new article every two weeks seems going in the opposite direction.
I would not ask to somebody who is willing to share an article that could be helpful to the community to first check how many articles already in the feed are still visible on Planet Drupal. I could also not imagine somebody reporting a feed with more than 10 articles visible on Planet Drupal.If there are exceptional cases, those can be handled cases by case, similar to what done when a feed contains an article that does not suit Planet Drupal: It is sufficient to move the article to an aggregator category that is not publicly shown.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Asking to post a new article every two weeks seems going in the opposite direction.
Where do I suggest that? This is my suggestion: "Your feed must have a maximum of ten posts."
I would not ask to somebody who is willing to share an article that could be helpful to the community to first check how many articles already in the feed are still visible on Planet Drupal.
I don't see why they would need to do that? If they are applying for inclusion, they are not yet on Planet Drupal ...
I could also not imagine somebody reporting a feed with more than 10 articles visible on Planet Drupal.
But I just linked to an issue, which lists plenty of cases, where up to 50 posts flood Planet Drupal ... I'll paste them here. So obviously many feeds have more than ten items in them:
- Jan 13, 2025: 37 posts, Bounteous.com
- Aug 16, 2024: 40 posts, Bounteous.com
- July 12, 2024: 6 posts, Dries Buytaert
- June 25, 2024: 10 posts, Niels de Feyter
- June 16-20, 2024: 47 posts, Mario Hernandez
- Mar 1, 2024: 9 posts, Acquia Developer Portal Blog
- Jan 19, 2024: 4 posts, Acquia
- Dec 20, 2023: 8 posts, Zyxware Technologies
- Dec 4, 2023: 15 posts, Samuel Mortenson
- Nov 23, 2023: 10 posts, Niels de Feyter
- Nov 20, 2023: 9 posts, DrupalEasy
- Nov 20, 2023: 5 posts, ANNAI Magazine
- Nov 19, 2023: 24 posts, Gbyte
- Nov 16, 2023: 14 posts, Centarro
- Nov 14, 2023: 10 posts, TEN7
- Nov 5, 2023: 10 posts, 3C Web Services
- Nov 1, 2023: 20 posts, Lullabot
- Oct 24, 2023: 9 posts, ADCI Solutions
- Oct 16, 2023: 6 posts, Dropsolid Experience Agency
- Oct 6, 2023: 50 (!) posts, Electric Citizen
Perhaps the wording was ambiguous in the Issue Summary? I don't suggest that drupal.org should make any changes, this is only aimed at the user feed, at example.org/drupalorg-feed.xml -- I'll update the Issue Summary in case it was not clear.
- 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Might the new proposal in 🐛 Prevent flooding of feeds such as Drupal Planet with old blog posts Closed: duplicate of sorting by feed item post date descending be a solution?
- 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
Where do I suggest that? This is my suggestion: "Your feed must have a maximum of ten posts."
Since no further limits are described, a maximum of ten articles on Planet Drupal, where articles older than three months and three weeks are automatically discarded, means that a feed should, in average, publish not more than an article every two weeks, or the articles from the same visible on Planet Drupal would become more than ten.
What reported on 📌 Clean up Drupal Planet for old posts Active was caused by an issue on Drupal core. There is no need to put a limit for those cases, since it is possible to removed articles from Planet Drupal. In That issue, @drumm also posted this comment, which I read it as There is nothing to worry about.
It's not really practical to do any manual cleanup since newer posts will usually push occurrences of this down by the time someone can look at this.
I don't suggest that drupal.org should make any changes
Actually, any restriction on articles/feeds described on Planet Drupal → are a condition for an action content moderators should take. If the guidelines say that a feed must have a maximum of ten posts, content moderators should do something when a feed does not respect that limit, similarly to what is done when a feed is not updated in more than two years.
So, yes, adding that "clause" does require drupal.org makes any change. - 🇩🇰Denmark ressa Copenhagen
Most Planet Drupal users will probably only check the front page page for fresh content, and page 2, 3, etc. will rarely be looked through. So having your fresh article pushed away from page 1 is a big deal for those unfortunate bloggers.
Similarly, should a post number eleven disappear from page 6, it's not a big deal.
@drumm has stated that no clean up will take place.
My suggestion is to prophylactically prevent up to 50 old posts pushing down all the new content.
About making changes, I of course meant the Planet Drupal set up itself need not to be updated. Updating the Planet Drupal requirements would of course need to be updated, and sure as a consequence, there could be an extra task of following up with feed providers, who don't follow this guideline.
It could also be added as "strongly recommended" and not a requirement?