Gather feedback from people who started as Inexperienced Developers

Created on 1 June 2024, 10 months ago

Problem/Motivation

We are currently surveying potential employers who are interested in hiring inexperienced developers, developing the initiative scope, and best practices for the initiative.

It would be valuable to consider the recent experiences and get feedback from people who started as inexperienced developers and have a few years experience in a new position.

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πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States bsnodgrass

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  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States camoa

    Can we start doing this?

    We need a volunteer maybe?

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States flux423 Portland, Maine

    Following discussions with Carlos β†’ and Mike β†’ about improving developer onboarding in the Drupal community, I've created a document to capture the experiences of new Drupal developers entering our ecosystem.

    This aims to understand the IXP Fellowship by investigating:

    • Successful pathways into Drupal development
    • Effective learning methods for Drupal-specific skills
    • Critical challenges faced by new developers
    • Most impactful mentorship approaches
    • Strategies for transitioning from learning to active contribution

    You can review the full document here: IXP Feedback Document

    Core research goals:

    • Understand the learning journey of new Drupal developers
    • Identify and address barriers in the Drupal contribution process
    • Map skill development trajectories for junior developers
    • Develop more effective community support mechanisms

    Feel free to request edit access or I can update the issue summary.

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States bsnodgrass

    @flux423, that's a pretty complete document, and well done. However, it seems to go beyond the scope of what I had in mind for this issue. I envisioned a short-term effort to get feedback from fairly new Drupal developers with recent career development experience. Their experience is much different than what we saw in the earlier days of Drupal. (pre D8+).

    I envisioned a survey and possibly interviews with some of these folks to understand what they feel was lacking in their experience.

    This kind of feedback could be beneficial as this program is developed.

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States flux423 Portland, Maine

    Thank you @bsnodgrass for the feedback and clarification. You make an good point about focusing on a survey at first - their experience is quite different from the pre-D8 era.

    Would you like me to draft some survey questions to help understand their journey?

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States anilu@ Houston, TX
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  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States anilu@ Houston, TX
  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States anilu@ Houston, TX
  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States anilu@ Houston, TX

    Thanks for sharing this document https://www.drupal.org/project/ixp/issues/3451808#comment-15979757 πŸ“Œ Gather feedback from people who started as Inexperienced Developers Active it think it will be very useful along the journey. I took a couple of things from it and updated the ticket. Please feel free to prepare a survey so we could reviewed.

    My initial toughs will be:
    - Look what has been used by the community until now, and how feasible will be to use some tooling at this part of the process.
    - Define a few fields so people can share their experience. Something like:
    -- Name Fist / Last Optional
    -- Country
    -- Language
    -- Companies relationships : study, first work opportunity,...
    -- Mentors / special thanks to:
    -- A little background / where are cumming from
    -- Tell your experience
    -- Takeaways
    -- Links

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States flux423 Portland, Maine

    Thanks, @anilu, for the feedback! I built on what you shared and expanded it to include additional data that could be valuable from the start.

    Here’s the updated version
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rxTetXyMW_bu9HHMuTqnwx7EgxnKgcA6S8lB...

    I also opened up the document to allow editing. Tell me your thoughts.

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States anilu@ Houston, TX

    Thanks Flux β†’ I really like the proposal. Though it feels a little long, but maybe on a multiple steps forms gon't get the same feeling. Also, this people really want to share their stories.

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States ultimike Florida, USA

    @flux423 - focusing only on the "IXP Survey" tab of the GoogleDoc, I think it is a no-brainer to move this along.

    My main question to everyone is this: how do we use the resultant data? I think we need specific answers to this, including who will be doing the work to utilize the data. I don't think we should start this effort until we have a "realistic in a reasonable time frame" plan in place.

    Some initial ideas:

    • Additions to "best practices for IXPs" and "best practices for employers" pages (neither exists as of this moment, but I'm currently working on the latter.)
    • A blog post suitable for general (Drupal) audiences.

    -mike

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