- Issue created by @Alleekhan
- Status changed to Fixed
about 1 year ago 10:50am 10 October 2023 - 🇮🇹Italy apaderno Brescia, 🇮🇹
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- 🇳🇴Norway gisle Norway
The user is blocked from posting here, including the Forums. I've no idea why.
- 🇺🇸United States B_man California, USA
Looks like they were automatically blocked for not submitting to the anti spam account creation measures. Their profile also looks a little spammy, but that wasn't the cause for the block as far as I can tell.
- 🇳🇴Norway gisle Norway
IMHO, the JavaScript based spam-blocker appears to be rather error-prone.
I have JavaScript enabled, I don't use any ad-blockers, and I don't use any automated scraping tools, but once a month or so when I log in on Drupal.org, I get a message like "We think you're using automated tools to browse this site. Please prove you're human by pressing here and hold." (Can't quote verbatim, since I didn't record it, but you get the idea.) I am always allowed to enter after going through this exersince, but IMHO, this sort of thing creates a very bad UX for new users who are falsely targeted. Foran example: see this forum post (which I believe is grounded in the same anti-spam feature): https://www.drupal.org/forum/general/general-discussion/2023-10-02/your-... →
Can you consider suspending this anti-spam feature until the bugs in it are squashed?
- 🇺🇸United States hestenet Portland, OR 🇺🇸
The volume of spam getting through before the tool was implemented was quite high, so we're making a trade off for the amount of false positives at the moment. It can be frustrating for sure. No system will be perfect and it's a matter of whether we have much more spam to clean or more false positives to correct.
I'm not sure what the best resolution will be. It's certainly not something I think we can revisit prior to DrupalCon Lille next week.
- 🇳🇴Norway gisle Norway
My perception is that very few of these false positives are corrected. For example, these users are still blocked:
I had the opportunity to monitor the posts created by Ratspeed for the full 60 minutes before the automatic block were enforced, and I spotted nothing that indicated that this was a spammer.
Blocking a user is a very dramatic sanction because: 1) Being blocked, the user cannot create a post to any to appeal the sanction; 2) being kicked off the site, it is very unlikely that these users ever return 3) even if the blocked user manage to file an appeal, very few people can reverse a blockage (I am not sure who can, outside employees of the DA, but as a humble site moderator, I cannot do it).
If there really is a need for some measure to stop spam from 'bots (which I assume is the purpose of using a JavaScript-disabled-sniffer), it would be better to raise a flag that automatically unpublished every post by a suspected 'bot until a side moderator has had the time to manually review the account to block the account or to remove the flag.
- 🇳🇴Norway gisle Norway
OK, both are unblocked now, so someone with the required amount of user-moderator-fu probably saw my previous post and decided to lift the blockage.
- 🇺🇸United States B_man California, USA
Oh yeah, that was me, I forgot to hit save when I commented right after I did it. My apologies.
I'm thinking on ways we can make the protections less aggressive while still protecting us from spam account creation. Probably a mash up of the un-publish all posts idea with some other stuff mixed in.
Automatically closed - issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.