Anyway to configure the help text?

Created on 15 August 2024, 12 months ago

Problem/Motivation

We have need to configure this message "This image is decorative and should be hidden from screen readers."

The phrase 'hidden from screen readers' puts off some of our clients who thinks this images will get hidden from the page for screen readers. Also it is not any helpful for our content authors to understand that if they don't want to enter an alt text they should click the check mark.

It will help if we can set a more helpful and descriptive message.

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Version

1.0

Component

User interface

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πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬Nigeria chike Nigeria

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  • Issue created by @chike
  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States bkosborne New Jersey, USA

    I'm certainly open to changing this to be more descriptive. Do you have any proposals? The image is essentially hidden from screen readers. To my understanding, screen reader software will skip over an image that has empty alt text as if it does not exist.

  • πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬Nigeria chike Nigeria

    I think "Check to skip adding alt text." will suffice. The technical angle of screen readers and image being 'decorative' will throw off a larger number of users. E.g. we have this issue on our forum and most forum members don't know screen readers, never heard of 'decorative' and don't even know what alt text means and so when they see "This image ..should be hidden'' they get alarmed like their image will not show to some people.

  • πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬Nigeria chike Nigeria

    Or "Check to skip adding an alt text."

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States bkosborne New Jersey, USA

    they get alarmed like their image will not show to some people.

    They should get alarmed that their image won't show up to some people, because it's true. Blind users that navigate the web using a screen reader will not "see" the image if it doesn't have alternative text.

    The alt text description field from core indicates the purpose of the alt text "Short description of the image used by screen readers and displayed when the image is not loaded. This is important for accessibility."

    This module's entire purpose is to force users to stop and think about what it means to avoid entering alt text. The only valid reason for NOT having alt text on an image is if it's decorative.

    I'm open to modifying the description to explain a bit more about what it means to mark an image as decorative.

    But ... if we used your suggestion of "Check to skip adding alt text", then there's really no reason to use this module at all, and you might as well uninstall it. Just let your users keep the alt text field blank.

  • πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬Nigeria chike Nigeria

    I get. Thanks.

  • πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬Nigeria chike Nigeria

    It means myself have been abusing this module. I check it everywhere I add an image. I don't like the stress of entering alt texts and I have heard many say that to me.

  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States bkosborne New Jersey, USA

    It can certainly be challenging to come up with descriptive text for images!

    I think that the descriptive text could be improved though to better help the users understand what a decorative image is, rather than just dumping them on the web accessibility page. I'll leave this open for that.

  • πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺGermany jan kellermann

    I like the WAI Decision Tree.

    Proposal:

    This image is decorative and can be ignored by assistive technologies, such as screen readers. Read more about Decorative Images or use the Decision Tree.

  • Merge request !7#3468387: Improve help text. β†’ (Open) created by jan kellermann
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  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈUnited States cwilcox808

    I like, this I think it's an improvement. "… ignored by assistive technologies, such as screen readers" does not imply the image will be visually hidden but still indicates it won't be a part of the page experience for some people.

    Having two links within help text seems a bit much, maybe just include the one to the decision tree and use "alt Decision Tree" as the link text?

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