- Issue created by @adamps
- π¨πSwitzerland berdir Switzerland
I think tracking/managing bounces and similar delivery problems is useful but not trivial and often requires to actually process and parse mail responses, we worked on https://www.drupal.org/project/inmail β at some point but didn't follow-up on that.
link and open tracking IMHO should not be a feature that this module provides. There are no privacy-respecting versions of that :) I'm well aware that all clients want that, but I think it sets a bad precedent to have that supported out of the box. If you have a client that wants that, maybe it could be a separate project?
- π¬π§United Kingdom adamps
useful but not trivial
Agree, and I already updated the IS before reading your comment. It's especially bad when using sendmail because sending always "succeeds". It works a little better with SMTP because more of the errors are reported immediately as send failures.
link and open tracking IMHO should not be a feature that this module provides.
Personally speaking I tend to agreeπ. However I thought it was fair to raise the issue so that other people have a chance to comment too. I'm happy for it to be a separate project.
Although I don't really like tracking, realistically speaking site owners want it. Either they can move to commercial platforms which often have lots of heavy tracking features, or someone else might write the add-on for simplenews. So if simplenews has a semi-official add-on for lightweight tracking that we write carefully/sensitively then maybe it's a sensible balance?? For example maybe we could try to anonymise/aggregate the information? I'd welcome your suggestions or further discussion if you have time available.
- π¬π§United Kingdom adamps
Here's an idea. Instead of adding the actual subscriber ID, we could add a unique ID derived from it by a one-way hash. This would allow tracking of percentages clicked but arguably respecting privacy.
Rather than ducking analytics entirely, I feel attracted to the challenge creating an ethical implementation that could be a show-case for others to copy.
- π¦πΉAustria ChrisZZ Vienna
Dear Adam,
for us, only the percentage is important - we do not want to follow individual users. So yes - we are open to the sensitive approach.
Best regards,
Christian - π¬π§United Kingdom adamps
Thanks for the comments. I've updated the IS to describe some options that are 100% privacy respecting.
@Berdir OK with you?
I believe the best solution requires some non-BC data model changes, so it would need to wait for v5. We should allow a few months for v4 to become stable first.